Future Options For Public Authority Training And Employment Enterprises
ISB Conference 12th March 2003
REVISED PROGRAMME FOR THE DAY:
Future Options For Public Authority Training And Employment
Enterprises –
An Examination Of the Strategic And Operational Issues
Around Externalisation, Modernisation And New NHS / Local Authority
Policy Agendas
9 – 9.30am Registration & Coffee
9.30 – 9.35am Welcome from the Chair Bob Grove
9.35am ISB – the principles & purpose of the funding
stream
Michael Thornton, Head of the ISB Unit, HM Treasury
(powerpoint presentation)
9.45am Public Authority Enterprises – Potential Social Firms?
Gerry Higgins, CEO of SFUK outlines the background to this ISB Project and
presents some experiences for public authorities wishing to develop social
firms. (powerpoint
presentation)
10.05am Lessons from ISB: Northumberland County Council
As part of an ambitious day care modernisation programme, run alongside the
establishment of a joint Care Trust, Northumberland has been developing social
enterprises out of existing day care activities, as well as some social firms
in entirely new trade areas, as a route into employment for people with learning
and other disabilities. Dave Barras of Northumberland County Council and
Geof Cox of Economic Partnerships outline the key lessons learnt.
10.35am The Cost Benefit Analysis Summarised
Bob Grove presents an overview of the process and findings of the cost benefit
analysis done under the ISB Project.(powerpoint
presentation)
10.50am Coffee Break / Networking / Exhibition
11.20am Surrey County Council
Charlotte Langridge, Business Development Manager of Surrey County Council,
outlines the process for what started off as 3 enterprise activities being
considered for externalisation and shares the main issues which have resulted
in only one being seriously moved forward under the programme. (powerpoint
presentation)
11.50am What’s an NHS Trust doing running businesses anyway!
Sally Reynolds of Surrey Oaklands NHS Trust shares the ups and downs of externalisation
proposals for its two social firms: Netherne Printing Services and Travel
Matters. (powerpoint
presentation)
12.20pm What’s Legal and What Isn’t?
Trevor Mawer from Capsticks provides an overview of the legislation surrounding
TUPE of staff from NHS and local authority settings into externalised firms,
implications of pension and legalities of asset transfer to help these enterprises
on their way (or not). This presentation is meant as a taster – the
associated workshop will go into more of the issues in detail. (powerpoint
presentation)
12.45pm Lunch & networking
1.45pm Where’s it all going?
Bringing work for people with mental health problems into the mainstream as
a central component of National Service Framework and NHS Plan implementation.
Dr Richard Ford, South East Development Centre, National Institute for Mental
Health in England. (powerpoint
presentation)
2.15 – 3.45pm WORKSHOPS
WORKSHOP A: Exploration into the Personnel and Employment
Issues Associated with Externalisation of Services.
LOCATION: IMPERIAL SUITE
(on same floor as the main conference room, outside by the lift & toilets)
This workshop will follow up on the morning presentation and will aim to clarify
some of the issues arising from the question of externalisation with debate
and group discussion. Two hypothetical case studies for externalisation will
be put forward to small delegate groups for proposals to be compiled and fed
back to a panel comprising of Trevor Mawer and Christopher Brophy from Capsticks,
David Dye of Surrey Oaklands NHS Trust and Jackie Atchinson from London Borough
of Newham.
CASE STUDY A (pdf
file)
CASE STUDY
B (pdf file)
WORKSHOP B: How Charities Identify and Grasp the Opportunities
of Externalisation.
LOCATION: ROOM G5-G7, ECLIPSE PAVILION GROUND FLOOR
(from main conference room take lift down, come out and turn right to cross
link bridge to the Eclipse Pavilion building then take the lift down to the
ground floor).
Kevin Tunnard and Annette Hamilton of Richmond Fellowship Workschemes and Andy
Cox, ex-manager of Mental Health Matters, explore the issues that charities
consider when approached to take on existing public authority services. This
workshop will look at contracting and service agreements, the ‘fit’ with
charitable objectives, funding implications and general management of the process.
CASE
STUDIES (pdf file)
WORKSHOP C: What happens if a local authority
or NHS Trust withdraws funding for one of its own work-related projects?
LOCATION: ROOM 3.1-3.3 ECLIPSE PAVILION 3rd FLOOR
(from main conference room take lift down, come out and turn right to cross
link bridge to the Eclipse Pavilion building then take the lift up to the third
floor).
Mike Stanley from the Board of Oakleaf Enterprise in Guildford describes how
this unit for people with mental health problems didn’t close but converted
into a charity set up from scratch with some assistance from its NHS Trust
to enable the transition. Clive Stone, Chief Executive of Oakleaf Enterprise,
also shares some of the realities surrounding externalising in this way.
WORKSHOP D:How Can Public Authorities Fulfil Their Obligations
To Their Services Users Through Service Agreements And Procurement?
LOCATION: ROOM 3.6-3.8 ECLIPSE PAVILION 3rd FLOOR
(from main conference room take lift down, come out and turn right to cross
link bridge to the Eclipse Pavilion building then take the lift up to the third
floor).
This workshop will share experiences on the setting up of service agreements
and contracts for enterprises to provide care services on the one hand, and
commercial contracts on the other. Short presentations will be made by Robert
Hill of Supercare and Jamie Ounan from Tower Hamlets Borough Council. Discussion
and debate will be chaired by Jane Sidaway.
WORKSHOP F:Capitalising Externalised Services
LOCATION: ROOM 3.4-3.5 ECLIPSE PAVILION 3rd FLOOR
(from main conference room take lift down, come out and turn right to cross
link bridge to the Eclipse Pavilion building then take the lift up to the third
floor).
The assets used in a trading activity within a public authority or large charity
may not be available or suitable to an externalised social enterprise, and
there may be mysterious new financial needs like 'working capital'. In this
workshop Geof Cox and Guy Turnbull of Economic Partnerships look at the issues
around how to assess capital needs, and at the whole range of options for financing
either existing or new premises, equipment and cash flow.
3.45pm Round up of workshop findings and conclusion to the conference
4.15pm Finish (and a cup of tea for those that want one!)
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